[Krononauts] new timeline help wanted.

[Carl Brown]

<-----Original Message-----> 
>From: Lev Lafayette [lev at rpgreview.net]
>Sent: 7/21/2010 9:08:42 PM
>To: krononauts at mimesisrpg.com
>Subject: Re: [Krononauts] new timeline help wanted.
>
>On Tue, 2010-07-20 at 13:14 -0700, Carl Brown wrote:
>> 
>> >Not really. Just the Soviets don't really have Eastern Europe, the
>> USA
>> >doesn't really have Western Europe; and although there would be no
>> >massive end-of-war destruction, likewise there would be no COMECON
or
>> >Marshall Plan.
>> Right, errr what's a Marshall Plan.? COMECON? You can see why I tend
>> to prehistory adventures. To Google...
>> 
>
>Or to Wikipedia :)
>
>Basically the Marshall Plan was the United States giving Western Europe
>a bucket load of money to rebuild the economies, which worked but it
>also meant that these economies had to pay the money back - with
>interest (Germany paid back its debt by 1971). So it provided the
United
>States a great deal of political and economic leverage. Without it the
>US wouldn't be as strong... 
>
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshall_Plan
>
>As for COMECON it was sort of a Soviet equivalent. Under Stalin it was
>more about keeping the satellite nations out of the Marshall Plan.
Under
>Brezhnev is was more about co-ordination of 5-year plans in an
>integrated manner.
>
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COMECON

Thanks
>
>> Is the threat of a super weapon considered here? Do we have to invent
>> the A-bomb and use it?
>
>I actually don't know whether it would be needed. Japan would be
feeling
>very lonely if Nazi Germany surrendered.

opposite land to the last timeline
>
>> >> What about culture and technology?
>> >
>> >Interestingly I think Eastern Europe would more influential than
>> Western
>> >Europe in this regard because of their stronger independence and
>> mutual
>> >aid among each other.
>> 
>> Latest fashions from Warsaw?
>
>And Prague, Budapest, Bucharest etc.
>
>> He was a pragmatic fanatic willing to kow-tow to anyone who had the
>> resourses to pursue his dream of flights to the Moon and planets. He
>> may not have been able to lure as many other scientists to come with
>> him.
>
>Hmmm.. Very tricky. I don't know whether there would be much impetus
for
>a space race as the political balance would be geared away from two
>large superpowers, into several smaller blocs (Anglophone, West Europe,
>East Europe, Soviet Union, China). 
ok a frustrated Von Braun as a US citizen with a reputation as a
crackpot. Global retarded space development. We make ICBM's but don't
push for the moon.
>
>> >Either Franco and Salazar would reform (as suggested) or there very
>> well
>> >may be a war between various western European countries and the
>> United
>> >States!
>> 
>> Which is more likely?
>
>I think the reform would be more likely.
>
>> So this Salazar he's a wizard right?
>
>A very strong Catholic and semi-fascist dictator of Portugal.

Like I said a wizard, fond of arcane ritual, of the Dark Lord sub-type
;)
>
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ant%C3%B3nio_de_Oliveira_Salazar
>
>But yeah it's a cool roleplaying name. But so is King Zog!
>
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zog_of_Albania

I think Conan took on that guy.
>
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